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		<title>By: lacey kaye</title>
		<link>http://www.maggierobinson.net/2007/01/22/dissection/comment-page-1/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>lacey kaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I&#039;ve sliced. And it&#039;s ALWAYS, ALWAYS better for it, and I always love it more. Enough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;ve sliced. And it&#8217;s ALWAYS, ALWAYS better for it, and I always love it more. Enough?</p>
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		<title>By: lacey kaye</title>
		<link>http://www.maggierobinson.net/2007/01/22/dissection/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>lacey kaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not crazy about it, myself, but it doesn&#039;t make an automatic wall-banger for me. Unless they&#039;ve already been happily married. I don&#039;t think I could stomach it then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not crazy about it, myself, but it doesn&#8217;t make an automatic wall-banger for me. Unless they&#8217;ve already been happily married. I don&#8217;t think I could stomach it then.</p>
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		<title>By: seton</title>
		<link>http://www.maggierobinson.net/2007/01/22/dissection/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>seton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont mind if the hero cheats for whatever reason but I am a old dinosaur reader who remembers when it was the norm. I do think that there are a LOT of romance readers who just wont stand for it so maybe having TWO novels which has that happening might be too extreme?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The JoBev novel that CM was referring to was &lt;b&gt;An Arranged marriage&lt;/b&gt;. One of my favorite romances of all time -- &lt;b&gt;The Painted Lady&lt;/b&gt; by Lucia Grahame has the hero seeking mistresses after the heroine physically repudiates him in forceful terms and there was one Livejournaler who mentioned how she HATED the book because of it. She wouldn&#039;t even acknowledge the writing itself which is as good as you will find in a romance novel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont mind if the hero cheats for whatever reason but I am a old dinosaur reader who remembers when it was the norm. I do think that there are a LOT of romance readers who just wont stand for it so maybe having TWO novels which has that happening might be too extreme?</p>
<p>The JoBev novel that CM was referring to was <b>An Arranged marriage</b>. One of my favorite romances of all time &#8212; <b>The Painted Lady</b> by Lucia Grahame has the hero seeking mistresses after the heroine physically repudiates him in forceful terms and there was one Livejournaler who mentioned how she HATED the book because of it. She wouldn&#8217;t even acknowledge the writing itself which is as good as you will find in a romance novel.</p>
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		<title>By: CM</title>
		<link>http://www.maggierobinson.net/2007/01/22/dissection/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>CM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggie, that might not be impossible.  His motivations here are important.  There are some things I think I can understand, and that I think couples could work out of--the &quot;preemptive affair&quot; (I thought you were going to have an affair, so I did it first), or trying to make the other person hurt as badly as he was hurt--because they ultimately stem from the love the couple has.    No matter how twisted that love has become.  You can believe that there&#039;s love there, that maybe they can untwist it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are others that just won&#039;t work.  Like, &quot;I thought I could get away with it, and now I&#039;m really really sorry (that I got caught).&quot;  If it&#039;s driven by selfishness and lust, it&#039;s hard to swallow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It sounds like you&#039;re doing the former.  I think a lot of people can relate to that, and rules be damned.  If you can make it work, go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggie, that might not be impossible.  His motivations here are important.  There are some things I think I can understand, and that I think couples could work out of&#8211;the &#8220;preemptive affair&#8221; (I thought you were going to have an affair, so I did it first), or trying to make the other person hurt as badly as he was hurt&#8211;because they ultimately stem from the love the couple has.    No matter how twisted that love has become.  You can believe that there&#8217;s love there, that maybe they can untwist it.</p>
<p>There are others that just won&#8217;t work.  Like, &#8220;I thought I could get away with it, and now I&#8217;m really really sorry (that I got caught).&#8221;  If it&#8217;s driven by selfishness and lust, it&#8217;s hard to swallow.</p>
<p>It sounds like you&#8217;re doing the former.  I think a lot of people can relate to that, and rules be damned.  If you can make it work, go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie Robinson</title>
		<link>http://www.maggierobinson.net/2007/01/22/dissection/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 23:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I&#039;m in agreement. The trust issue is huge, and both h/h are at fault. In one, she has given him every reason to believe that she is unfaithful, and he reluctantly follows suit with a scheming evil woman from his past (who&#039;s also the mother of the child he never knew he had. God, describing this makes me want to gag. I just realized it&#039;s kind of a secret baby plot.). In the other, he completely misconstrues her past and takes up with his old flame. These guys suffer for these sins, believe me, but the heroines are not completely blameless. Thanks for the input, CM. I think I&#039;d rather try to break the &quot;rule&quot; than bend it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;m in agreement. The trust issue is huge, and both h/h are at fault. In one, she has given him every reason to believe that she is unfaithful, and he reluctantly follows suit with a scheming evil woman from his past (who&#8217;s also the mother of the child he never knew he had. God, describing this makes me want to gag. I just realized it&#8217;s kind of a secret baby plot.). In the other, he completely misconstrues her past and takes up with his old flame. These guys suffer for these sins, believe me, but the heroines are not completely blameless. Thanks for the input, CM. I think I&#8217;d rather try to break the &#8220;rule&#8221; than bend it.</p>
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		<title>By: CM</title>
		<link>http://www.maggierobinson.net/2007/01/22/dissection/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>CM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the thing.  There is a dictum in the romance world that once the hero meets the heroine, he can&#039;t sleep with anyone else.  That, I think, is silly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And then there&#039;s the question of being unfaithful to the heroine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In my mind, sleeping with other girls after he&#039;s met her isn&#039;t being unfaithful to her.  To be unfaithful in the first place, there must be faith to keep.  And so what I want to know before judging this at all is whether you&#039;re talking about violating the former edict--in which case I say go for broke--or if you&#039;re talking about having him break trust with her.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;d find the second really, really hard to swallow.  And the only way I&#039;d accept it is if there was a damned good reason (Either M.J. Putney or Jo Beverly does this in one of her earlier books, but he has a damned good reason--national security.)  In any event, if he&#039;s cheating because he just wants to get laid, I don&#039;t think I could handle it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing.  There is a dictum in the romance world that once the hero meets the heroine, he can&#8217;t sleep with anyone else.  That, I think, is silly.</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s the question of being unfaithful to the heroine.</p>
<p>In my mind, sleeping with other girls after he&#8217;s met her isn&#8217;t being unfaithful to her.  To be unfaithful in the first place, there must be faith to keep.  And so what I want to know before judging this at all is whether you&#8217;re talking about violating the former edict&#8211;in which case I say go for broke&#8211;or if you&#8217;re talking about having him break trust with her.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d find the second really, really hard to swallow.  And the only way I&#8217;d accept it is if there was a damned good reason (Either M.J. Putney or Jo Beverly does this in one of her earlier books, but he has a damned good reason&#8211;national security.)  In any event, if he&#8217;s cheating because he just wants to get laid, I don&#8217;t think I could handle it.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie Robinson</title>
		<link>http://www.maggierobinson.net/2007/01/22/dissection/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to thank you all for your thoughtful responses...and I wasn&#039;t asking for praise, just if you&#039;d been successful at hacking away at something and putting it back together (but the praise was very nice!). I think I might be able to use Nearhere&#039;s idea of the &quot;presumed to have cheated hero&quot; in one of them if I do some judicious pruning (sorry, that&#039;s conjuring up a castration scenario for me. Must get head out of gutter). Anyway, thank you lots! I&#039;ll let you know what happens when I get back to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to thank you all for your thoughtful responses&#8230;and I wasn&#8217;t asking for praise, just if you&#8217;d been successful at hacking away at something and putting it back together (but the praise was very nice!). I think I might be able to use Nearhere&#8217;s idea of the &#8220;presumed to have cheated hero&#8221; in one of them if I do some judicious pruning (sorry, that&#8217;s conjuring up a castration scenario for me. Must get head out of gutter). Anyway, thank you lots! I&#8217;ll let you know what happens when I get back to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
		<link>http://www.maggierobinson.net/2007/01/22/dissection/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 04:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggie, you rock - you have such a fresh and funny voice that I know you&#039;re going to find success. And the Maybe pile is a great start! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m subversive, and I love authors who dare to bend and break rules, so I&#039;m okay with a cheating hero in theory. In reality, I think it&#039;s probably very hard to pull off and keep him likable. Maybe it&#039;s a plot to save for a later book? Not because you aren&#039;t capable of doing it well, but because it might be a little easier to sell to editors and readers once you have a following.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggie, you rock &#8211; you have such a fresh and funny voice that I know you&#8217;re going to find success. And the Maybe pile is a great start! </p>
<p>I&#8217;m subversive, and I love authors who dare to bend and break rules, so I&#8217;m okay with a cheating hero in theory. In reality, I think it&#8217;s probably very hard to pull off and keep him likable. Maybe it&#8217;s a plot to save for a later book? Not because you aren&#8217;t capable of doing it well, but because it might be a little easier to sell to editors and readers once you have a following.</p>
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		<title>By: Janga</title>
		<link>http://www.maggierobinson.net/2007/01/22/dissection/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Janga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggie, you are a terrific writer, and I fully believe that I will be buying your books one day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am reluctant to say something will not work in a romance because there is always an author who proves me wrong. Like many readers, just the thought of an unfaithful hero makes me cringe. However, Marilyn Pappano has an adulterous hero in Some Enchanted Season, a book I love, so I know the strategy can work. I do think a writer who chooses to burden either the hero or heroine with infidelity has set herself a formidable challenge, but I also believe that you are up to any challenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggie, you are a terrific writer, and I fully believe that I will be buying your books one day.</p>
<p>I am reluctant to say something will not work in a romance because there is always an author who proves me wrong. Like many readers, just the thought of an unfaithful hero makes me cringe. However, Marilyn Pappano has an adulterous hero in Some Enchanted Season, a book I love, so I know the strategy can work. I do think a writer who chooses to burden either the hero or heroine with infidelity has set herself a formidable challenge, but I also believe that you are up to any challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: Tessa Dare</title>
		<link>http://www.maggierobinson.net/2007/01/22/dissection/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Tessa Dare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Maggie, I will echo Terrio&#039;s encouragement - you are a fantastic writer! One little round of queries is nothing.  It&#039;s just a matter of time before you&#039;re published, I&#039;m certain. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for your plots, I am no expert whatsoever.  I am a complete dummy. Which is why I often rely on the advice of the book, Writing a Romance Novel for Dummies - and for what it&#039;s worth, that book says the hero should not stray (once he and the heroine have hooked up, of course - before then, the more lovers he&#039;s had, the better).  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I can sorta see why.  In the best sorts of romance novels (and any book you write is bound to be the best sort), I come to think of the heroine as a friend, and I love  imagining her living truly HEA with her hero.  I believe it 100%.  If my own, real-life friend came to me and said she&#039;d met this terrific guy, and he&#039;d had this little lapse, but he&#039;d groveled brilliantly and they worked through it, and now she was over-the-moon for him and swore they would live HEA - I would have a hard time believing it 100%.  Once the guy&#039;s cheated, it&#039;s so hard to believe he won&#039;t do it again - ten years down the line, when the heroine&#039;s copper curls turn silver and her svelte waistline has plumped up from bearing him six children.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m not saying it can&#039;t happen - HEA after infidelity - in real-life or fiction.  But to be completely honest, as an author you&#039;ve set yourself a hard task, making me buy into that HEA 100%.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But even if you decide you want to revise, if you wrote the whole novel with that conflict in mind - will it work to just drop-and-drag another conflict into its place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Maggie, I will echo Terrio&#8217;s encouragement &#8211; you are a fantastic writer! One little round of queries is nothing.  It&#8217;s just a matter of time before you&#8217;re published, I&#8217;m certain. </p>
<p>As for your plots, I am no expert whatsoever.  I am a complete dummy. Which is why I often rely on the advice of the book, Writing a Romance Novel for Dummies &#8211; and for what it&#8217;s worth, that book says the hero should not stray (once he and the heroine have hooked up, of course &#8211; before then, the more lovers he&#8217;s had, the better).  </p>
<p>And I can sorta see why.  In the best sorts of romance novels (and any book you write is bound to be the best sort), I come to think of the heroine as a friend, and I love  imagining her living truly HEA with her hero.  I believe it 100%.  If my own, real-life friend came to me and said she&#8217;d met this terrific guy, and he&#8217;d had this little lapse, but he&#8217;d groveled brilliantly and they worked through it, and now she was over-the-moon for him and swore they would live HEA &#8211; I would have a hard time believing it 100%.  Once the guy&#8217;s cheated, it&#8217;s so hard to believe he won&#8217;t do it again &#8211; ten years down the line, when the heroine&#8217;s copper curls turn silver and her svelte waistline has plumped up from bearing him six children.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying it can&#8217;t happen &#8211; HEA after infidelity &#8211; in real-life or fiction.  But to be completely honest, as an author you&#8217;ve set yourself a hard task, making me buy into that HEA 100%.</p>
<p>But even if you decide you want to revise, if you wrote the whole novel with that conflict in mind &#8211; will it work to just drop-and-drag another conflict into its place?</p>
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