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		<title>By: Maggie Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RIP, Mr. Hillerman, who had a long and successful career. Thanks, Anon, for the words of encouragement. We all need some every now and again!</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consider one of my favorite stories about &quot;feedback&quot;.  Tony Hillerman was rejected when he sent in his first Joe Leaphorn story.  The rejection included the advice that, if he would get rid of all that Indian stuff, he just might have a pretty good mystery.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Every person has an opinion, but that&#039;s all it is, just an opinion.&lt;br/&gt;Keep writing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider one of my favorite stories about &#8220;feedback&#8221;.  Tony Hillerman was rejected when he sent in his first Joe Leaphorn story.  The rejection included the advice that, if he would get rid of all that Indian stuff, he just might have a pretty good mystery.</p>
<p>Every person has an opinion, but that&#8217;s all it is, just an opinion.<br />Keep writing!</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link and visiting, Linda! I read that when Elizbo (one of my fave authors for so many reasons) posted over there (I used to be the Sunday blogger for RI until life happened). I think you can get great feedback---but sometimes not everything is &quot;right out there&quot; in your first pages.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Terrio, I think overall the feedback has been more helpful than not, but I&#039;ve been really judicious where I&#039;ve entered, looking at the final judges first and foremost. But I have to watch the wallet, and I believe I&#039;m done. Right now I only care what my agent thinks, and she&#039;s been great where I need to strengthen, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link and visiting, Linda! I read that when Elizbo (one of my fave authors for so many reasons) posted over there (I used to be the Sunday blogger for RI until life happened). I think you can get great feedback&#8212;but sometimes not everything is &#8220;right out there&#8221; in your first pages.</p>
<p>Terrio, I think overall the feedback has been more helpful than not, but I&#8217;ve been really judicious where I&#8217;ve entered, looking at the final judges first and foremost. But I have to watch the wallet, and I believe I&#8217;m done. Right now I only care what my agent thinks, and she&#8217;s been great where I need to strengthen, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Banche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda Banche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll join the club. I&#039;ve never finaled, but I&#039;ve come close. I&#039;ve had a judge who adored my hero (I want that guy!) to the one who said she had no sympathy for him. I&#039;ve been told the heroine doesn&#039;t come onstage soon enough, or the hero and heroine don&#039;t meet soon enough. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And even worse than the judges who give comments, are the ones who just check off boxes on the score sheet without any comments at all.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;About the only thing everyone agreed on was that I write well. Gee, thanks. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My contest days are over. Now the RWA considers me a &quot;Published Author&quot; so I can&#039;t enter the GH. BUT I can&#039;t enter the Rita, either, because my novella is e-pubbed, and the Rita only wants paper, and paper from large publishers, too.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Here&#039;s a blog post by Elizabeth Boyle. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://romanticinks.com/2008/08/24/what-contests-can-and-cant-do-for-your-writing/&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;She doesn&#039;t think much of contests, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll join the club. I&#8217;ve never finaled, but I&#8217;ve come close. I&#8217;ve had a judge who adored my hero (I want that guy!) to the one who said she had no sympathy for him. I&#8217;ve been told the heroine doesn&#8217;t come onstage soon enough, or the hero and heroine don&#8217;t meet soon enough. </p>
<p>And even worse than the judges who give comments, are the ones who just check off boxes on the score sheet without any comments at all.</p>
<p>About the only thing everyone agreed on was that I write well. Gee, thanks. </p>
<p>My contest days are over. Now the RWA considers me a &#8220;Published Author&#8221; so I can&#8217;t enter the GH. BUT I can&#8217;t enter the Rita, either, because my novella is e-pubbed, and the Rita only wants paper, and paper from large publishers, too.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a blog post by Elizabeth Boyle. </p>
<p><a href="http://romanticinks.com/2008/08/24/what-contests-can-and-cant-do-for-your-writing/" rel="nofollow">http://romanticinks.com/2008/08/24/what-contests-can-and-cant-do-for-your-writing/</a></p>
<p>She doesn&#8217;t think much of contests, either.</p>
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		<title>By: terrio</title>
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		<dc:creator>terrio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sitting here in awe at all these comments.  I knew it could get ugly out there but this stuff is crazy.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I can&#039;t get over the thing about Tiff needing to do more research.  She researches more than most anyone I know.  Crazy I tell ya.  CRAZY!!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve only entered one contest and won&#039;t enter anything else for at least another year.  I&#039;m aiming for GH 2010.  Fingers crossed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sitting here in awe at all these comments.  I knew it could get ugly out there but this stuff is crazy.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t get over the thing about Tiff needing to do more research.  She researches more than most anyone I know.  Crazy I tell ya.  CRAZY!!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only entered one contest and won&#8217;t enter anything else for at least another year.  I&#8217;m aiming for GH 2010.  Fingers crossed.</p>
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		<title>By: Elyssa Papa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elyssa Papa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janga, thanks. I won&#039;t lie---some comments stick to you more than others, and some are just so ridiculous and absurd you can just brush them off. Trust me, if you get horrible comments (which is a distinct possibility as you can see from quoted comments) . . . just try to brush it aside and know they&#039;re only getting a sample of your work and that at the end of the day, you need to trust your own judgment and writing. Plus, you know on what contests NOT to enter from now on. *g*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janga, thanks. I won&#8217;t lie&#8212;some comments stick to you more than others, and some are just so ridiculous and absurd you can just brush them off. Trust me, if you get horrible comments (which is a distinct possibility as you can see from quoted comments) . . . just try to brush it aside and know they&#8217;re only getting a sample of your work and that at the end of the day, you need to trust your own judgment and writing. Plus, you know on what contests NOT to enter from now on. *g*</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany Kenzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany Kenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, at this point I just laugh. To each their own, and I do not intend to please everyone. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have gotten helpful contest feedback, though. So it&#039;s not all discouraging. I managed to clean my synopsis up when multiple people said the story ended to easy-smeasy. And I can say I&#039;ve pleased more people with HB than with the last book I entered in contests--though those cruel words  made the final burial for that book rather... justified. :) &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You just have to know when to listen, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, at this point I just laugh. To each their own, and I do not intend to please everyone. </p>
<p>I have gotten helpful contest feedback, though. So it&#8217;s not all discouraging. I managed to clean my synopsis up when multiple people said the story ended to easy-smeasy. And I can say I&#8217;ve pleased more people with HB than with the last book I entered in contests&#8211;though those cruel words  made the final burial for that book rather&#8230; justified. <img src='http://www.maggierobinson.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>You just have to know when to listen, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is beginning to feel like a 12-step meeting, LOL. We&#039;re all in the church basement with coffee, wishing it was something stronger. &quot;Hi, my name is Maggie and I&#039;m a contest junkie. I&#039;m PAYING to rack up all the criticism I can so I can be depressed and stop writing.&quot; Now, mind you, I got a very good suggestion from the Golden Claddagh people which did indeed shift something very important in Mistress by Midnight---so kisses to them! And the Golden Pen crits will be useful when I finally go back and tackle a serious revision. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Gillian, one thing about the GH is that it&#039;s JUST scores, which, depending on your point of view, is either a good thing or a bad thing. If I thought I could finish my current WIP in time (which I could---about 13,000 words to go, but I&#039;m not going to put pressure on myself to do so), I might have entered this year. I do have something finished but don&#039;t think it&#039;s quite right.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Janga, good luck to you, and yay that you took the plunge! Your writing is wonderful and I hope your scores are sky-high!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Tiff, two words I never expect to hear about you again---weak and boring! You&#039;ve just got to laugh. And it&#039;s true: the only people who ultimately count at this stage are agents and editors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is beginning to feel like a 12-step meeting, LOL. We&#8217;re all in the church basement with coffee, wishing it was something stronger. &#8220;Hi, my name is Maggie and I&#8217;m a contest junkie. I&#8217;m PAYING to rack up all the criticism I can so I can be depressed and stop writing.&#8221; Now, mind you, I got a very good suggestion from the Golden Claddagh people which did indeed shift something very important in Mistress by Midnight&#8212;so kisses to them! And the Golden Pen crits will be useful when I finally go back and tackle a serious revision. </p>
<p>Gillian, one thing about the GH is that it&#8217;s JUST scores, which, depending on your point of view, is either a good thing or a bad thing. If I thought I could finish my current WIP in time (which I could&#8212;about 13,000 words to go, but I&#8217;m not going to put pressure on myself to do so), I might have entered this year. I do have something finished but don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s quite right.</p>
<p>Janga, good luck to you, and yay that you took the plunge! Your writing is wonderful and I hope your scores are sky-high!</p>
<p>Tiff, two words I never expect to hear about you again&#8212;weak and boring! You&#8217;ve just got to laugh. And it&#8217;s true: the only people who ultimately count at this stage are agents and editors.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany Kenzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany Kenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said I would share. This particular contest, I think the judge gave Hidden Beauty 84/220 or something silly like that. The only people who matter are your CPs and agents and editors when commenting on your work. Contests are all a crapshot and they make real rejections from editors/agents less severe :)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I like the writer’s style and writing ability, I did not find the characters at all believable.  With such a graceful style, I know the author could put together a more original story.  The harem theme has great potential, more historical research would enable the author to enrich her characters.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The writer is very readable in terms of word usage and grammar.  The writing flows.  The manuscript is well written.  The writing style is mature and it is obvious the author has the ability to write a good story.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I found the story line extremely weak and the characters dull and predictable.  The opening sequence was an attempt at a seductive scene, but in my mind fell short.   With such good writing skills the author should do more historical research to enrich the sense of place and exotic locale scenes.  The same for the characters, more detail about their personality and motivation.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The synopsis was well written, and well developed, but the plot is unsurprising and stale.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The author is a good writer; this particular story is weak and boring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said I would share. This particular contest, I think the judge gave Hidden Beauty 84/220 or something silly like that. The only people who matter are your CPs and agents and editors when commenting on your work. Contests are all a crapshot and they make real rejections from editors/agents less severe <img src='http://www.maggierobinson.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I like the writer’s style and writing ability, I did not find the characters at all believable.  With such a graceful style, I know the author could put together a more original story.  The harem theme has great potential, more historical research would enable the author to enrich her characters.</p>
<p>The writer is very readable in terms of word usage and grammar.  The writing flows.  The manuscript is well written.  The writing style is mature and it is obvious the author has the ability to write a good story.</p>
<p>I found the story line extremely weak and the characters dull and predictable.  The opening sequence was an attempt at a seductive scene, but in my mind fell short.   With such good writing skills the author should do more historical research to enrich the sense of place and exotic locale scenes.  The same for the characters, more detail about their personality and motivation.  </p>
<p>The synopsis was well written, and well developed, but the plot is unsurprising and stale.</p>
<p>The author is a good writer; this particular story is weak and boring.</p>
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		<title>By: Janga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently entered my first contest, and the results still aren&#039;t in. I think I&#039;m prepared for some harsh comments. Time will tell if I am.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;With academic writing and poetry, it is editors who play judge, but I have had my share of praise that left me elated and fault-finding that either left me running for cover or longing to have the editor and a stun gun in the room with me.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s one thing for a judge to identify what he/she sees as weaknesses in a writer&#039;s work. I suppose we ask for that when we enter contests. But I think the kind of comments Ely got from judge #1 say more about the judge than they say about the entry. People who pride themselves on their clever cutdowns (and you can almost see her gloating) have problems more serious than writing flaws. She clearly knows less about teaching than she thinks she does, and her own prose could use some judicious revision. Writers should not be asked to pay for that kind of malicious commentary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently entered my first contest, and the results still aren&#8217;t in. I think I&#8217;m prepared for some harsh comments. Time will tell if I am.</p>
<p>With academic writing and poetry, it is editors who play judge, but I have had my share of praise that left me elated and fault-finding that either left me running for cover or longing to have the editor and a stun gun in the room with me.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing for a judge to identify what he/she sees as weaknesses in a writer&#8217;s work. I suppose we ask for that when we enter contests. But I think the kind of comments Ely got from judge #1 say more about the judge than they say about the entry. People who pride themselves on their clever cutdowns (and you can almost see her gloating) have problems more serious than writing flaws. She clearly knows less about teaching than she thinks she does, and her own prose could use some judicious revision. Writers should not be asked to pay for that kind of malicious commentary.</p>
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